I can completely agree with the previous comment. Norms are up to you and your partner to determine. What is acceptable to some may be perverse to others. We are quite relaxed in our bedroom, but we don't bring our experiments to public discussion. Variety is always a good thing. We recently bought a leg speader bar , it is probably the craziest toy we have. But some might call it kinky. It's just that everyone's boundaries are different...